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« Last post by J.C on 11-Feb-20, 07:26 »
Hi Guys
I need to get a new Reg/rec because I have changed to a lithium battery - Does anyone happen to have a spare one lying around that they didn't end up using? I was hoping to get one out of Australia instead of the US its the only thing stopping me from ridding my bike after a 1-1/2 yr rebuild.
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« Last post by Highside on 09-Feb-20, 11:58 »
Hi All,
I have repeated the Stator Test-CDI and done it twice, cold and hot. The result of the hot test when entered into online test results were;
1-5 Your right pickup is faulty and needs to be replaced. This is required for both the stock CDI and Ignitech modules.
2-5 Your right pickup is faulty and needs to be replaced. This is required for both the stock CDI and Ignitech modules.
3-5 Your advance is faulty. Replace it if you’re running the stock CDI. If you are using an Ignitech the bike will run normally with a faulty advance.
4-5 Your left pickup is faulty and needs to be replaced. This is required for both the stock CDI and Ignitech modules.
6-5 Your left pickup is faulty and needs to be replaced. This is required for both the stock CDI and Ignitech modules.
7-5 Your advance is faulty. Replace it if you’re running the stock CDI. If you are using an Ignitech the bike will run normally with a faulty advance.
9-5 Some of the coils on your stator are faulty - if you are using the stock CDI you will need to replace the stator. The Ignitech does not require these coils to run.
9-8 Some of the coils on your stator are faulty - if you are using the stock CDI you will need to replace the stator. The Ignitech does not require these coils to run.
From the results it looks like I will be purchasing a Rae-San pickup system, and dropping the engine out to install it. Hopefully this will finally fix the problem and get the bike running normally again.
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« Last post by Highside on 09-Feb-20, 01:59 »
Hi All,
Thanks for the information and the links to the Rae-San Web site and the installation procedure, I have had a good look at and read through both.
I will redo the Stator Test -CDI tomorrow and see what results I get, but I am already thinking I may just change over to the Rae-San pickup system.
Then the whole pickup/CDI system will be new and fully electronic .
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« Last post by Seagrass on 08-Feb-20, 17:32 »
The CX650 engine hangers were cast iron (as you have found) and I suspect they were never under coated with a good quality primer which has resulted in nearly all of them ending up rusty.
I would treat the rust with rust converter (phosphoric acid) and then paint with one of the commercially available “kilrust” black paints. White Knight make a kilrust black that stays nice and black but it is a gloss finish and some people prefer a satin finish.
Seagrass
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« Last post by CX PHREAK on 08-Feb-20, 15:03 »
My {500} hangers are fabricated steel - not cast.
But I've always just etch primed them and painted them with engine enamel.
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« Last post by Barocca on 08-Feb-20, 13:02 »
Halfway through a Triple BP and have been delighted by the condition of the internals. It appears that the only wear item that I need to replace is the camchain. However, the cast front engine hangers are a fairly uniform, though unattractive shade of iron oxide. I'm unsure why they have deteriorated so badly whilst surrounding frame and engine parts have escaped the ravages of time (or grime, or?). I'm wondering what the original finish was and/or what others have successfully used. Also, what priming or rust conversion is recommended?
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« Last post by kazdeluxe on 08-Feb-20, 09:51 »
ok worked it out my grab bar arrived in the mail cheers rob.
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« Last post by J.C. on 07-Feb-20, 21:41 »
The Rae San Full Hall Effect kit (found on the page Seagrass linked above) does not utilise the Honda pickups, so they can be left in-situ (and indeed the right hand one has the little pointer for the timing so it's helpful to leave it) - it has an alternate method of sensing the engine position using magnets and pickups that sit where the advance coils are under the back of the motor. Installation photos here: https://motofaction.org/motorcycles/honda-cx-gl/a-how-install-guide-rae-san-hall-effect-aftermarket-ignition-cdi-replacement-cx500-gl500-cx650-gl650/
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« Last post by J.C. on 07-Feb-20, 21:40 »
Hi All,
I have gone back and read through Stator Test-CDI again thinking I must have missed the section about doing the test twice, hot and cold. The steps in this procedure do not mention doing the test twice, so I read the TI procedure, which states at the start, that the test needs to be done Twice, hot and cold.
I will repeat the test when I get a chance and do it cold and hot, hopefully it will provide a bit more information and and pinpoint the cause of the problem.
I am unfamiliar with the Rae San and Hall Effect Kit you have mentioned, where can I find out some more information on these pickups and where can I buy them from.
I have no issues with dropping the engine out to replace the pickups if that's what's required. I am at the stage where they are about the last thing to check/replace. This has been a very frustrating problem to diagnose but i'm not ready to give up just yet, Ha Ha.
Good catch, I thought I had added that note years ago. While it may not have changed anything in this particular case, I have added the note about cold/hot motor testing to both the automated test results page and the writeup. If you want to see the update and your browser has cached the old copy of the page you may need to refresh and if that doesn't work clear the cache.
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« Last post by Seagrass on 07-Feb-20, 20:44 »
Google is your friend in this Case, https://www.rae-san.com/Seagrass
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