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wary45

2012 rally site news
« Started on: 17-May-11, 22:22 »
Hi all in case anyone has missed the post we have an issue with the Bathurst rally site with the proposed site stating that they have a 9pm noise curfew with the possibility of the entire group being evicted if it is breached.

This makes the proposed site in bathurst problematic and a new venue is being sought which gives us the opportunity to unwind and catch up as we have before.

Several sites have given the same response as the panorama park.  There is still allot of expressed interest in keepingthe rally
 in the bathurst region and keeping the facilities to the same level we have had for the last couple of years so not just a camp ground.
any suggestions would be welcome

phantomcxmenance

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #1 on: 18-May-11, 07:54 »
http://au.totaltravel.yahoo.com/directory/accommodation/australia/nsw/explorernsw/centraltablelands/?filter=caravan
http://www.truelocal.com.au/find/camping-grounds-caravans/nsw/illawarra-region/lake-bathurst/

firstly personally I can camp and rough it,thats just me I could sleep under a tarp and have done on a few occasions
secondly if you want to expand your search wisemans ferry has an excellent park which I have told you all about before,but I can tell you I think pumpkin hour is 8:00pm LOL
http://www.delrioresort.com.au/
lastly the south coast has some great spots as well ,does it have to be inland? what about batemans bay? Narooma
http://www.beachresort.com.au/
http://www.islandview.com.au/
or
what about the tammworth area
http://www.austintouristpark.com.au/
you could then ride some of the best roads in NSW,thunderbolts etc

just a few suggestions

gm

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #2 on: 11-Jun-11, 18:07 »
hello everyone
has the process stopped? should we attempt a coordinated approach to find a suitable location?  is there anything I can do to help??

wary45

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #3 on: 30-Jun-11, 21:59 »
Hi all,

Firstly apologies to everyone for the delay. The search for a rally site has been a steep learning curve for myself and others in the group in relation to planning a rally.

To save anyone who doesn't read past the second  line of a post any pain the Bathurst rally for 2012 is still a go and the Big 4 Holiday Park at Kelso is still the intended site.

The delay was caused through trying to find a facility that can cater for our group, offer the facilities we have had in the past and offers a location which will give us a good rally.

I am happy to discuss any concerns please feel free to email to discuss any issues you may have, I assure you the decision was not reached over night and numerous locations were considered, a great many have similar conditions.

As mentioned previously the site does have restrictions on noise and they have agreed to a 10pm cut off as opposed to their normal 9pm, the main gathering area will be closed by 10pm and anyone wanting to continue having a few drinks will need to do so in their own cabins and with respect for the other patrons of the facility.

The park is happy to take bookings now but the Big 4 group has a price review early next year so pricing will be confirmed then.

To meet one of the requirements of the park this years rally will attract a $20 per person registration fee which will be refunded when the group as a whole leave the facility in good condition. This is the first time we have encountered this condition but it is unlikely to be the last.

The site is certainly not anti-bike - they host numerous rallies and will host 200 bikes the weekend before us.

As has been done previously food will be made available and once I an indication of numbers attending I can provide more information on this.

I have been to Bathurst last week to look at the site, do a couple of possible rides and do a couple of laps of the track (I have checked and we will be able to access the track over the weekend)

For those who feel the site may limit their enjoyment over the week end there is other accommodation close by but any one who chooses to stay off site will need to leave the complex by 9pm each night and registration will still attract the $20 fee.

Once again I am sorry for the delay and particularly to those who have already cancelled booking.

I will post more information in the coming months and as i said i am happy to discuss any concerns held so please email to raise them.


Regards Wary

Andy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #4 on: 01-Jul-11, 00:31 »
This caravan park sounds ideal for people who suffer from anti-insomnia!   :grandpa:
Wow! We have never felt so NOT welcome before.
We (The Coolamon Crew) maybe, on occasion, a rowdy group, but as Cowra and Sutton can attest we were not on our own!
Isn’t the witching hour midnight? So why 10 pm?
The idea of a $20 “fee” regardless of whether you stay there or not is ridiculous.
The $20 surcharge refund, if we leave the site in “good condition”, is a joke.  The term “good condition” is very subjective. Does this make us responsible for all other park guests leaving the park in “good condition”?
So, sorry as we are, we will decline the invitation to use this park’s facilities as either a guest, or a visitor from other accommodation.
We hope to catch up with the forum members at more hospitable locations.

Staffy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #5 on: 01-Jul-11, 07:25 »
They do sound like they are being quite inhospitable Wary and would rather be a pain in the a*# than flat out say no and refuse to host us.  Maybe Bathurst is not the place to meet if this is the only suitable accomodation?

Seagrass

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #6 on: 01-Jul-11, 09:10 »
From what I am aware of the rally site negotiations with potential locations, all sites approached including Cowra, now have tighter curfew and noise requirements then what our group have encountered in the past.

It is not a secret that the Sutton site managers received noise complaints about our group from other people that were staying there and I would suspect that park managers talk to each other about groups that have been complained about.

As the Kelso park has been willing to move the curfew time to 10pm this seems to imply they are happy to work with our group and accommodate us with certain limitations. As a self employed business person this seems like a reasonable compromise to me.

It is understandable that these restrictions will not suit everyone and that unfortunately means that some people will choose not to attend.

I am sure that those that choose to attend will enjoy the company and the event as always happy0158

Seagrass

Honey

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #7 on: 01-Jul-11, 10:08 »

Thank you Ian for all your work in the 2012 rally ,  happy0065

Our family will not be attending this rally we have other plans

But i would be getting there conditions of park left in respectful conditions written in black and white so u can tick off , for your benefit & members safety they don't loose there $20 per person.

For a town that host's cars/ bike rallies seems like they need to chill out a bit...

I am proud to admit that i was one that did have a few drinks and sang a bit loud and got lost taking members back to the cabins ( Glowe) stop climbing thru that window its not your cabin)... Yes Lance i know you like me and the boys, but gee that's 20 times u have told me now..... Yes i was one that caused a bit of grief at Sutton... As far as i was aware it was our tribute to a wonderful man who was and will always be part of the forum Yes ARTY

Chill out and enjoy life....







Staffy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #8 on: 01-Jul-11, 15:16 »
Apologies guys.  I don't mean to detract from the great work Wary and others have done here, I just haven't heard of such a thing before.

It won't have any bearing on whether or not I attend as I'm sure there's plenty of pubs nearby to make noise if the need arises.   However I do agree that "left in good condition" needs to be described in writing. 

Enzo

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #9 on: 01-Jul-11, 15:57 »
  :crash:

DocGreen

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #10 on: 01-Jul-11, 22:20 »
wary.
Thanks for all of your hard work.
I am still coming no matter what the restrictions.

wary45

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #11 on: 02-Jul-11, 09:47 »
The 'Bond' is to cover potential deliberate or negligent damage or leaving the facility or equipment dirty or in need of excessive cleaning.
The site is use by numerous groups and were happy to offer references from other groups. they are also part of a write up in classic bike or similar (sorry cant remember off hand) from a group of 200 who used them at easter and have done so for many years.




Staffy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #12 on: 02-Jul-11, 09:50 »
Ah, so it sounds like they are not completely anti bikes, just catious and covering their bases which is fair enough. 

hdconyers

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #13 on: 02-Jul-11, 15:11 »
Looked at 2

1 an old prison farm in the forest near Batlow regularly has m/bike groups. It is out in the forest on it's own see:
Home

The only pricing it has includes 3 meals a day and they don't allow self catering.

Otherwise looked interesting

No. 2 was near Holbrook and I know some HOG groups have stayed there.

   Glenfalloch

Haven't been able to speak to them yet.

Central to Melb Sydney & Adel [via Wagga]

both sites offer lot's of good ride potentials




phantomcxmenance

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #14 on: 02-Jul-11, 20:55 »
Its a pity gone are the days when we would just pitch a tent ,drink a red, cook some meat and ride our bikes and have a yarn round a fire.

I know we all like our comforts ,I am more than guilty than many others but I love roughing it as well.

See how you go wary your doing a great job, if you need some reconnisance? let me know...I know people 2wink 2wink

hdconyers

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #15 on: 03-Jul-11, 18:03 »
Had a ph call from the Glenfalloch people tonite,

Kitchen and dining area for self catering. Camping allowed, need to bring own bedding/sleeping bag.

when there is a group, they don't have any other guests, and the area is 300m from their home and the group is welcome to stay up late and have drinks around an open fire etc. will try to call in and have a look.

doddsy1000

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #16 on: 03-Jul-11, 20:06 »
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wary.
Thanks for all of your hard work.
I am still coming no matter what the restrictions.

Me too  happy0158

Andy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #17 on: 03-Jul-11, 20:27 »
Had a ph call from the Glenfalloch people tonite,

Kitchen and dining area for self catering. Camping allowed, need to bring own bedding/sleeping bag.

when there is a group, they don't have any other guests, and the area is 300m from their home and the group is welcome to stay up late and have drinks around an open fire etc. will try to call in and have a look.

Sounds great Harold ... c014

and Harry ..."Glenfalloch is a 2,000 acre picturesque rural property..." you could put a lot of distance between your camp site and the Coolamon Crew's ....  http://www.websmileys.com/sm/fam/fam21.gif2012 rally site news

Mins Man

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #18 on: 03-Jul-11, 20:50 »
Sounds Good Andy. Me in one corner of the property and the Coolamon Crew in the other!  happy0158

rrusch

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #19 on: 09-Aug-11, 20:24 »
Good on you Wary.  We'll have to catch up soon.  Happy to help out with organising if you need a hand, regardless of if I can make it to the rally or not.

Kathy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #20 on: 29-Aug-11, 22:08 »
Hi Folks,

Seagrass, his wife Lynn, Ron and I travelled to Bathurst last Saturday to checkout the accommodation options for our rally next year and , as most of you are aware, we have been planning to stay at the Big 4 caravan park.

However, and quite fortuitously, we met up at the Visitor Information Centre and the staff there told us about two other venues that also cater to groups (they both have unit/cabins and bunk houses/dormitories and one also allows onsite camping).

We drove out to venue that offers onsite camping and it looks great - apart from the accommodation options there is also a licensed function centre that can cater some or all of our meals if required.  Best of all, however, there is no noise curfew and no requirement for us to pay a bond!!    party0024

We also checked out the Big 4 caravan park and, even though it is a really nice looking, family-friendly facility, it does not seem to be very 'tent camper' friendly or geared towards groups who want to socialise onsite.

As a result, we have already started discussions with the managers at the alternate venue in Bathurst in relation to holding our rally there - hopefully I will be able to provide information about accommodation costs within the next few days.

Kathy

Staffy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #21 on: 29-Aug-11, 22:31 »
 cool0010 2cheer
'Tent camper' friendly sounds great.

doddsy1000

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #22 on: 29-Aug-11, 22:36 »
Now that is just excellent  happy0158

Great find!  2cheer

I'm really looking forward to Bathurst.  I haven't been there since I was 19.  Almost 10 years ago!  2undecided (maybe a bit longer  lmao)

Be nice to me or I'll bring a Wallaby  2knuckle

Mins Man

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #23 on: 29-Aug-11, 23:01 »
Which one will the Jayco mob be staying at?    2smiley

Kathy

Re: 2012 rally site news
« Reply #24 on: 29-Aug-11, 23:05 »
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Which one will the Jayco mob be staying at?
Not this one - this venue doesn't have powered sites or a sullage dump point.   2smiley

 


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