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Pb-sensor replacement found!!


Because of the importance of the subject I put this message also on the Interchangeable Parts page.

Message from the HFTC Parts Commission the Netherlands (date 27-3-2013).

Pb-sensor replacement.

Dear Turbo colleagues, the HFTC Parts Commission has searched for a Pb-sensor replacement. This because the original ones start to give technical problems and Honda is no longer supplying the sensors.

After searching on the Internet, inquiries at the various motorcycle importers, visits to car- and motorcycle breakers, etc, we have put some sensors at a workshop test.
A few selected sensors have afterwards been tested on a CX500T and CX650T followed by a test on a Dynojet test-rig provided with exhaustgas measuring equipment. 

The best results came from a Suzuki MAP-sensor.
Two Toyota Map-sensors showed identical characteristics as the Suzuki sensor*
Based on the testresults, the HFTC Parts Commission is confident to recommend these sensors as a Pb-sensor replacement.

Below the details of the Suzuki-sensor.
General details.
Brand: Denso.
Type number: 100798-5630. Suzuki orderingnumber: 15620-35F00.
Suzuki description: Sensor Boost, IAP (Inlet Air Pressure) sensor.

Below the details of the two Toyota sensors.
General details.
Brand: Denso
Type number:                 100798-4530   and 100798-5256
Toyota orderingnumber: 89420-16080   and 89420-02010

New Suzuki sensor.
Via a motorcycle dealer, newprice €198 including VAT (Motoport, December 2012).

New Toyota sensors. Via a cardealer, newprice ca € 480 including VAT.

New connector.
Connectortype: DJ7036F-2.2-11/21. 
The HFTC Parts Commission bought 30 new connectors in China.
Those connectors are available for 2,50 Euro each (excluding shipment costs). Contact, Mr Leo Knijnenburg, (onderdelen-commissie@hftc.nl).

Used sensor and connector.
Apart from buying a new sensor/connector one could think of obtaining this (most probably cheaper) material from a motorcycle-/car breaker.
Be aware that apart from the sensor a connector is needed. This connector is normally part of a cable-loom/wire-harness. Furthermore the sensor has to be checked for the correct type number. A different type number means a different characteristic!!!!
The mentioned sensor-type is fitted on the following Suzuki motorcycles:
Type                   Year of production.
AN 650               2003 - 2006   
GSXR 1000       2001 – 2004
    ,,       750        2000 – 2003
    ,,       600        2001 – 2004
SV 1000             2003 – 2007.

The Toyota sensors are fitted on the Toyota Starlet ‘96 – ‘99 and Corolla ‘95 – ‘04.
Sometimes sensors are offered on E-bay etc.

Suitable used connectors are (also) found on the various car types such as:
Brand         Type     Year of production.
Toyota      Corolla   1990 – 1997
Toyota      Corolla   2004 – 2005
Subaru                    1995 – 2002
Suzuki                     1995 – 2002
Mazda                     1995 – 2002, etc. 

Connection Diagram. **
*  Bench tested, not Dynojet tested.
** Given wire colours refer to the wiring of the Suzuki-GSXR, female connector.
    Other (car) types may have different wire colours.
    But the +5V, - and signal connections remain the same. 

Although the HFTC Parts Commission has full confidence in the functioning of the advised replacement sensor and the advice is drafted to the best knowledge, the Commission can not accept any liability for the use of the mentioned product.

Ko Maljaars & Leo Knijnenburg    happy0167

That's just excellent work!  happy0159 happy0159 happy0159


great article.  Would you know if the Suzuki sensor replaces that of the p2 sensor on the cx650 turbo??

Thanks in advance.



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